tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post2751842276941572881..comments2024-03-28T18:20:20.744+08:00Comments on BULLy the BEAR: Don't be the last fool standingla papillionhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01372278083694506953noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-58539105002478732792010-05-04T10:07:29.290+08:002010-05-04T10:07:29.290+08:00Hi Charles,
Yeap...welcome indeed to the real wor...Hi Charles,<br /><br />Yeap...welcome indeed to the real world :)<br /><br />Hi bro8888,<br /><br />ya, some people don't learn from losing money. I know a guy who lost consistently for 7 yrs in the market. Recently heard he changed his job as an accountant to become a trader.<br /><br />I wonder what he is thinking about.<br /><br />Hey PG,<br /><br />Yes, it's not to exit the market entirely, but how much to put inside it.<br /><br />I think your target can be done, definitely.la papillionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01372278083694506953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-1387175648264661132010-05-03T10:06:11.535+08:002010-05-03T10:06:11.535+08:00I still believe I need to be vested in the stock m...I still believe I need to be vested in the stock market simply because bank and fixed deposits are simply not even overcoming inflation!<br /><br />However, the decision then for me is how much to stay invested during the cyclical bullish and bearish periods.<br /><br />I am comfortable with 25% to maximum of 75% of investible capital in equities at any one point in time.<br /><br />But as I grow older, I start to pare down my higher limit nearer to 60-70% simply because I realise I cannot get "rich" i.e. financially free without taking huge bets that could potentially wipe out my investible capital.<br /><br />Thus, I am just trying to keep up with inflation and beating 2 x fixed deposit returns and blue chips (at value pricing) can achieve that realistically.<br /><br />Be well and prosper.PanzerGrenadierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15836438378215893219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-4532378500824442682010-04-29T20:27:57.557+08:002010-04-29T20:27:57.557+08:00Real world noobs. Fully agreed. I have seen people...Real world noobs. Fully agreed. I have seen people who spend years in the market still noobs.Createwealth8888https://www.blogger.com/profile/08563834016250153049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-6341176426427137642010-04-29T15:58:37.154+08:002010-04-29T15:58:37.154+08:00All I'll say is, it happened yesterday. Today ...All I'll say is, it happened yesterday. Today it still happens. Tomorrow, it will still be happening. Welcome to the real world noobs, as what they say.<br /><br />-CharlesmingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-63431875771982795052010-04-29T13:03:02.698+08:002010-04-29T13:03:02.698+08:00Hi HH,
I read that...he's the saudi prince wh...Hi HH,<br /><br />I read that...he's the saudi prince who invested in C :)la papillionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01372278083694506953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-71836815681327728512010-04-29T12:33:03.142+08:002010-04-29T12:33:03.142+08:00Hi LP,
Its interesting to keep track of these &qu...Hi LP,<br /><br />Its interesting to keep track of these "real life stories" & of investment gurus too, some lose deeply and make a come back fast enough. Some super funds managers with value investment philosophy actually did not fire much during fire sales. <br /><br />Interesting read:<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Waleed_bin_Talal<br /><br /><br />Cheers,<br />hhAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-39774155689273820422010-04-29T11:12:22.189+08:002010-04-29T11:12:22.189+08:00Hi momo,
You know the reason why you're into ...Hi momo,<br /><br />You know the reason why you're into divy stocks...not all the newbies seem to know that. They just see, oh, this reit is so high in yield, better than banks, so I buy for long term. Period.<br /><br />Gd luck in your strategy!la papillionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01372278083694506953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-10119364540207340592010-04-29T10:42:24.279+08:002010-04-29T10:42:24.279+08:00Hi LP,
that's the reason I go mainly for divi...Hi LP,<br /><br />that's the reason I go mainly for dividend stocks nowadays, putting heavyweight into defensive sectors like SPH and Starhub... <br /><br />It can go up, down, or stay stagnant, but it doesn't matter because it will likely remain in positive cashflow, and dividends will still flow out. In the worst case, it becomes a slow return of capital... <br /><br />Supposed SPH and Starhub were to go bankrupt in two to five years time, I would have received sufficient divdends not to have too big an impact of loss.JWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04633191740991225888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-26240772184965116982010-04-29T10:10:26.593+08:002010-04-29T10:10:26.593+08:00Hi bro8888,
Always stay vested, yes. Nobody says ...Hi bro8888,<br /><br />Always stay vested, yes. Nobody says to take out all your money when bear comes and put in all when bull comes. I don't think anyone can do it consistently.<br /><br />I'm just cautioning the newbies not to put their money before putting the correct mindset and attitude towards learning the market first.la papillionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01372278083694506953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-63815553588588412122010-04-29T10:08:24.083+08:002010-04-29T10:08:24.083+08:00Hi Jeremy,
Long time no see :) Well, in my view, ...Hi Jeremy,<br /><br />Long time no see :) Well, in my view, you can trade it too. But you better know what you are doing whether investing or trading.<br /><br />I don't like to see people lose their money by just plunging into the market without knowing what's happening. Just a rumor at cna will send them to buy it because they 'don't want to miss the run'.la papillionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01372278083694506953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-35163970841229773552010-04-29T10:06:47.839+08:002010-04-29T10:06:47.839+08:00Hi Dou,
Haha, I think newbies 'everytime'...Hi Dou,<br /><br />Haha, I think newbies 'everytime' is like that, not only nowadays :) I remembered fondly that I did such things too, so I thought it'll be best to advice people not to do such and such :)la papillionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01372278083694506953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-36128712495753283802010-04-29T10:05:36.380+08:002010-04-29T10:05:36.380+08:00Hi HH,
I guess ultimately it boils down to indivi...Hi HH,<br /><br />I guess ultimately it boils down to individual's response to the same situation. You know, some people crack under stress, some will strive harder under stress.<br /><br />But interesting story that you related to us :)la papillionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01372278083694506953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-69588062062483232662010-04-29T09:42:57.430+08:002010-04-29T09:42:57.430+08:00Hey AK,
Well, me too. I just hope that newbies do...Hey AK,<br /><br />Well, me too. I just hope that newbies don't have to learn the hard way, but I don't think that's likely...<br /><br />oh well :)la papillionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01372278083694506953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-17144951572183510542010-04-29T07:32:04.400+08:002010-04-29T07:32:04.400+08:00Bulls and Bears will always come one after another...Bulls and Bears will always come one after another. Do have some stocks and cash to live with them. Keep money management and risk control in your mind. Bulls and bears are your friends.Createwealth8888https://www.blogger.com/profile/08563834016250153049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-22087805823611919192010-04-28T23:24:40.121+08:002010-04-28T23:24:40.121+08:00Hi LP,
Good analogy of the market behaviour (simil...Hi LP,<br />Good analogy of the market behaviour (similar to playing musical chair - greater fool theory). It always pays to be on the cautious side (looking at capital preservation first before making profits). The more greedy one views the market, the higher chance of being emotional and carrying out poor investment decisions. The market is a great vehicle for investment only when one views it as an investment vehicle (by carrying out prudent investment decisions) and not some money tree giving out easy money. <br /><br />Jeremy :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-35659342688768332302010-04-28T23:20:35.589+08:002010-04-28T23:20:35.589+08:00lol createwealth8888
U seems pretty bullish to me...lol createwealth8888<br /><br />U seems pretty bullish to me hahaDouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10694404984460035958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-67173831231960050492010-04-28T21:11:18.711+08:002010-04-28T21:11:18.711+08:00"Don't be the last fool standing". G..."Don't be the last fool standing". Good advice; but, also "don't be the last fool sitting while the bull is still running"Createwealth8888https://www.blogger.com/profile/08563834016250153049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-76460709774530677512010-04-28T21:05:39.059+08:002010-04-28T21:05:39.059+08:00Nowadays i feel newbies are funny.
Most of them d...Nowadays i feel newbies are funny.<br /><br />Most of them does not know any things about stock and yet they dare to just dump all their money in without any analysis.<br /><br />In fact they just want fast money which they think will drop from the tree of stocksDouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10694404984460035958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-64045208115348979462010-04-28T15:32:57.246+08:002010-04-28T15:32:57.246+08:00"The older folks like my dad say the stock ma..."The older folks like my dad say the stock market is a crocodile pit." How apt. <br /><br />Don't worry about those crocodiles ..<br /><br />http://createwealth8888.blogspot.com/2010/01/safety-net-in-market-revisit.htmlCreatewealth8888https://www.blogger.com/profile/08563834016250153049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-7599806891705147672010-04-28T15:27:31.428+08:002010-04-28T15:27:31.428+08:00Hi LP,
Selective perception! People hear what the...Hi LP,<br /><br />Selective perception! People hear what they want to hear. <br /><br />The older folks like my dad say the stock market is a crocodile pit. How apt. <br /><br />When I first heard that, I thought not too bad la.. most ppl I know use their own money to buy the stocks. At most, they lost what they throw into the pit (that saving) and learn a lesson.<br /><br />One particular friend lost couple of ten thousands in 2000 and decided not to buy stocks anymore. He invests in property instead. Luck? or? He owns 2 fully paid properties now. He still does not buy much stocks except the company he works with.<br /><br />Another decided not to invest in anything at all after losing couple of ten thousands! even in 2003 when the great sales was on. He was adament to put most of his money in banks. Now?<br /><br />Another, is still trying to trade, but refuse to cut loss when mkt direction is not in favour. cut loss when bleeding is too much too bear. Mkt turn around. Jump in again when mkt pick up and cut loss again when losses escalate. Ride on huge losses and take small profit since 2000. still doing. His savings is huge so the loss is huge.<br /><br />Same situation, different responses.<br /><br />hhAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-2482881894849016502010-04-28T14:59:39.779+08:002010-04-28T14:59:39.779+08:00If you are not keen to learn and upgrade your inve...If you are not keen to learn and upgrade your investing skills to do well in investing, then you got no choice but to work hard and save harder. Life like that. bo pian leh.Createwealth8888https://www.blogger.com/profile/08563834016250153049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37872616.post-17433129775894914062010-04-28T14:09:21.004+08:002010-04-28T14:09:21.004+08:00I learned the hard way... Sob... Still blue black ...I learned the hard way... Sob... Still blue black in many places from the School of Hard Knocks! :_(AK71https://www.blogger.com/profile/16832145412062954289noreply@blogger.com